May 21, 2010 · #2 . My son's Knight Disk rifle using Pyrodex pellets & #209 shotgun primers thru same chronograph. Also 24 inch barrel but with a 1 in 28" twist. #5 . 43 inch barrel with 1 in 66" twist, black powder FFFg #6 . Never use FFFg powder in a rifle unless the manufacturer specifies it. Nov 21, 2011 · For the 20 bore --- 2.5 drams of black powder and 1 ounce of shot used to be a pretty standard field load --- 2.5 drams of black powder is just a hair over 68 grains of powder and that is pushing a full ounce of lead shot --- and ounce being 437.5 grains --- where as the OP is using a slug that is only 240 grains weight --- just a little more ... Western Powders Company introduced Blackhorn 209 in 2008. Like many other black powder substitutes, it is made to be a volumetric substitute of black powder. It is dispensed in "black powder powder measures" for muzzleloading applications. Blackhorn 209 is essentially non-corrosive, low-fouling, very consistent in gas generation, but non ... Sep 15, 2011 · Poweder trends in muzzleloaders have changed so much over the years, from pyrodex to triple 7 to Clean Shot to Shockeys Gold and now BlackHorn 209 is the hottest selling powder. Hard to stock a shop since I still have guys shooting each one. Dec 20, 2018 · Anyone else use it? I switched up a lot on my muzzy this year. New optic (leuopold 1.25-4 firedot), bullet (240gr xtp mag) and to blackhorn209. After sighting in and some load development, 20 rounds total, no change in effort to load rounds and clean up was a breeze, truly as easy as my... The CVA® Blackhorn™ QR Breech Plug is specifically designed for use with Blackhorn™ or other loose powder muzzleloading propellants. Nothing affects performance of your muzzleloader more than a clean breech plug for consistent ignition and better overall accuracy. Mar 05, 2018 · FWIW, I understand the logic behind BH209 over true BP. I made the switch in many of my guns a couple of years ago and haven't looked back. The makes of BH209 offer this conversion from volume to grains----.7 So, if your powder measure for BP was set at 10 grains you would multiply 10 by .7 to arrive at your charge weight in grains (7 grains by weight) So, your 18 grain BP load by volume would ... If you like your Sidekick, I would try the .25 ACP conversion, you can shoot just about any powder with almost no blow-back. Then if you want to try BH209 you can. I could get acceptable ignition some of the time with the 209 carriers IF I used a brand new one on each shot. Of course that would not be feasable to do all the time. I use 110gr of BH 209, Harvester's 300gr P T Gold bullet and the Black CR sabot. It's accuracy has been great, sub MOA groups and so has performance on game. So far this year this combo has accounted for 2 WT bucks, a 28 inch Aoudad ram, a corsican ram and a Fallow doe on our W Teaxas low fence lease. Run-of-the-mill 209 primers sometimes work, but the manufacturer recommends using either Federal 209A or CCI 209M primers with Blackhorn 209, and I’ve never had an issue when using either of ... Pyrodex Pellets VS Blackhorn 209. Thread starter Hunthigh1; Start date Mar 29, 2019; ... If you can’t use Blackhorn, I’d look at 777 Powder... Mar 29, 2019 #5 R ... Dec 12, 2017 · Per a given charge, BlackHorn 209 will provide the highest velocities of all black powder replacements. It’s also consistent in granule size for precise measuring, as well as leaves minimal, non-corrosive residue. This eases the cleaning process and negates swabbing between shots. Subsequent loading is easygoing. CVA Blackhorn Nitride 209 Breech Plug This Nitride coated stainless steel replacement breech plug is designed to work with all CVA Accura V2, Optima and Wolf models, 2010 or newer. This plug is optimal for whatever type of propellant you choose to use, either loose or pelletized. Montana X-Treme Blackhorn 209 Solvent - 6 oz. Specially formulated for firearms using Blackhorn 209 Powder Blackhorn 209 Cleaning Solvent is specifically designed to clean muzzleloaders and black powder cartridges that shoot Blackhorn 209 Propellant. For more information on this high performance muzzleloading propellant, visit:… The CVA® Blackhorn™ QR Breech Plug is specifically designed for use with Blackhorn™ or other loose powder muzzleloading propellants. Nothing affects performance of your muzzleloader more than a clean breech plug for consistent ignition and better overall accuracy. The manner in which the agency and the commission allows several powders, by brand name, to be used during the muzzleloader only season, then bans the use of another powder, by brand name, is extremely discriminatory - especially since the powders, including Blackhorn 209, all share the same technical classification - as determined by the U.S. Department of Transportation - and the United Nations. Both Blackhorn 209 and FFFg Triple Seven are capable of consistently keeping hundred yard groups inside of 1 1/2-inches. The 50-shot hole shown here could have been punched with either powder. The group shown here was shot with 110-grain volume measured charges of Blackhorn 209. Shooting a cooled barrel is key to such accuracy. BlackHorn 209® High Performance Muzzleloading Powder is a low-residue, high-performance propellant for muzzleloaders and black powder cartridges. Consistently performs at higher velocities with impressive accuracy and reduced fouling. 10 oz. cannister. Manufacturer style #: 55545. Engineered for modern in-line muzzleloaders with 209 ignition Blackhorn 209 Muzzleloader Cleaning Solvent -We strongly recommend using oil based solvents to clean guns using Blackhorn 209. Typical solvents for muzzleloaders are water based and are not recommended. Both Blackhorn 209 and FFFg Triple Seven are capable of consistently keeping hundred yard groups inside of 1 1/2-inches. The 50-shot hole shown here could have been punched with either powder. The group shown here was shot with 110-grain volume measured charges of Blackhorn 209. Shooting a cooled barrel is key to such accuracy. Firther reading re ealed that Tripple 7 powder, or Blackhorn 209 gets better performance and better accuracy. I switched: my load 110 grains of Blackhorn 209, 270 grain Borlock solud copper bullet. Tripple 7 209 primers. (I had some older Remington primers they delay fired 2nd and 3rd shots) fires great with fresh Tripple 7 (209) primers. The Blackhorn QRBP Breech Plug is specifically designed for use with Blackhorn 209 and other loose powder muzzle loading propellants. Specifications and Features: Stainless steel Tool-free installation and removal after fitting Specifically designed for use with loose powder propellants Keep your black powder guns clean and ready to shoot using the Thompson/Center T-17® Muzzleloader Cleaning Kit. Designed to work with most barrels up to 32" long, this kit includes products that are designed to clean away fouling from Pyrodex®, Blackhorn 209® and Triple Seven®. Is anyone using blackhorn 209 powder in a .45 cal inline? I've seen some stuff online but am looking for more personal insight. Western Powders doesn't have any data for .45's. My rifle is a TC contender .45/209. Its light, short, and accurate. I'm wanting to try this powder so I dont have to swab between shots. I did a test with 300 grain Hornady FPB bullets, when I bought my gun. Went from 90 grains of blackhorn 209 up to 120 (5 grain increments by volume, but precisely weighed out), using winchester 209A primers. My groups really tightened up around 105 grains. I have tried the new Blackhorn 209 powder. It's GREAT; I will continue to use it!! With powder and bullets being so expensive these days, I hope to learn from the experiences of others. If you have shot the Omega / 250 Tipped SpitFire / Blackhorn combination, would you please share the amount of powder that you found to work best? I'm shooting a Knight Disc Extreme MH with 120 grains of BH pushing a 300 grain 45-70 bullet in M&P orange sabots using Win 209 primers. I bought 4 bottles of blackhorn several years ago. Now, for no apparent reason, I'm getting hangfires and squibs on a regular basis. Tried the... Well, after reading about Blackhorn 209, I can report that I fired 20 rounds with no cleaning of the bore or breech plug in my Traditions Vortek. I used the BH volume cylinders with 110 grains of powder, CCI 209 magnum primers and Traditions Smackdown 250gr sabots. The only issue I had was with shot # 19, which was a delay fire. This oil-based solvent is recommended for cleaning muzzleloaders using Blackhorn 209 propellent. Typical muzzleloader solvents are water-based and can create gummy residue that's hard to remove. Montana X-Treme Blackhorn 209 solvent is specifically designed to remove Blackhorn 209 residue, leaving your bore clean and ready for your next ... A waste of time and money! If BP wasn't available, would be the only good excuse for using Blackhorn 209. This idea gets reviewed every few months---using fake blackpowder. It just doesn't perform better or for that matter, as good. Substitute! By Chuck Hawks. Illustration courtesy of Western Powders. A Guns and Shooting Online contributor wrote to me today (June 21, 2010), to tell me that: "The law enforcement divisions of New Mexico Department of Game and Fish and Colorado Dept. of Natural Resources are reviewing analyses of Blackhorn 209 and when they confirm that it is a nitrocellulose base powder, they will issue ... Jan 21, 2016 · Blackhorn 209 is legal in all smokeless categories, It is not legal for any of the Black Powder categories. The reason is that Blackhorn 209 contains nitrocellulose and is classified as a duplex powder. Most shooters never even consider using it because it costs almost twice as much per pound as APP or real BP. Oct 16, 2015 · Blackhorn 209 Powder. Bolt Action: DO NOT exceed 120 volumetric units of Blackhorn 209 Bighorn: DO NOT exceed 100 volumetric units of Blackhorn 209 Littlehorn: DO NOT exceed 80 volumetric units of Blackhorn 209 TK2000: DO NOT use * Blackhorn 209 NOT for use with flintlock, #11 percussion or musket caps. Dec 11, 2019 · black horn 209 powder is all i use in my custom inline or my by self custom built side locks. i use magspark shot gun primer nipples and this sets of the 209 powder. i also use it in my 45/70 shooting paperpatched bullets. i also use it in my 45 long colt cowboy loads. its pricey but such a good powder i bite the bullet and use it. i even have a cva 32 cal crocket rifle i built from the kit. it works very well in that gun also. 209 powder is as accurate as real black and real black is a very ... Black powder is much easier to ignite than substitutes like 777 or Blackhorn 209. So, if you use a flintlock or sidelock muzzleloader, you’ll almost certainly need to use some sort of true black powder like Goex since those types of muzzleloaders have relatively weak ignition systems. Sep 15, 2011 · Poweder trends in muzzleloaders have changed so much over the years, from pyrodex to triple 7 to Clean Shot to Shockeys Gold and now BlackHorn 209 is the hottest selling powder. Hard to stock a shop since I still have guys shooting each one. Aug 26, 2010 · Blackhorn 209 Powder Blackhorn 209 Powder. hamo. 51. Lance Corporal. hamo. 51. Post Aug 26, 2010 #1 2010-08-26T03:12. ... instructions, using nitro powder cleaning ... Blackhorn 209 is a low residue, high performance propellant for muzzleloaders and black powder cartridges that consistently shoots at higher velocities and with greater accuracy than all other muzzleloader powders. In fact, if you compare our benefits with other powders, you will quickly see that Blackhorn 209 absolutely smokes the competition… No, I haven’t used Blackhorn 209 powder in my muzzleloader. I’ve heard good things about it, but I did a little research and noticed that Blackhorn 209 powder is designed to be ignited by 209 primers. Unfortunately, I’m only allowed to use musket caps in Washington (not sure about Oregon).